Stie cineva care sunt gradatiile care sunt folosite de ''straini'' ?
Dau un exemplu NGC - Unc
Gradatii
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poate va este de ajutor
http://www.pcgs.com/grades.chtml
http://www.pcgs.com/grades.chtml
Multumesc foarte mult.
Ambele tabele sunt bune dar acesta in special
Grade Description
PO-1 Identifiable date and type
FR-2 Mostly worn, though some detail is visible
AG-3 Worn rims but most lettering is readable though worn
G-4 Slightly worn rims, flat detail, peripheral lettering nearly full
G-6 Rims complete with flat detail, peripheral lettering full
VG-8 Design worn with slight detail
VG-10 Design worn with slight detail, slightly clearer
F-12 Some deeply recessed areas with detail, all lettering sharp
F-15 Slightly more detail in the recessed areas, all lettering sharp
VF-20 Some definition of detail, all lettering full and sharp
VF-25 Slightly more definition in the detail and lettering
VF-30 Almost complete detail with flat areas
VF-35 Detail is complete but worn with high points flat
EF-40 Detail is complete with most high points slightly flat
EF-45 Detail is complete with some high points flat
EF-45+ Detail is complete with a few high points flat. Superior eye appeal.
AU-50 Full detail with friction over most of the surface, slight flatness on high points
AU-50+ Full detail with friction over most of the surface, very slight flatness on high points. Good eye appeal.
AU-53 Full detail with friction over 1/2 or more of surface, very slight flatness on high points
AU-53+ Full detail with friction on only 1/2 of surface, extremely slight flatness on high points. Positive eye appeal.
AU-55 Full detail with friction on less than 1/2 surface, mainly on high points
AU-55+ Full detail with slight friction on less than 1/2 of surface, on high points. Eye appeal is good.
AU-58 Full detail with only slight friction on the high points
AU-58+ Full detail with the barest trace of friction on the highest points. Superior eye appeal.
MS/PR-60 No wear. May have many heavy marks/hairlines, strike may not be full
MS/PR-61 No wear. Multiple heavy marks/hairlines, strike may not be full
MS/PR-62 No wear. Slightly less marks/hairlines, strike may not be full
MS/PR-62+ No wear. Still slightly above number of marks/hairlines, strike may not be full. Attractive eye appeal for grade.
MS/PR-63 Moderate number/size marks/hairlines, strike may not be full
MS/PR-63+ Average number of marks/hairlines, strike will be close to average. Good eye appeal for grade.
MS/PR-64 Few marks/hairlines or a couple of severe ones, strike should be average or above
MS/PR-64+ Very few marks/hairlines or a couple of heavier ones, strike should be average or above. Superior eye appeal.
MS/PR-65 Minor marks/hairlines though none in focal areas, above average strike
MS/PR-65+ Very minor marks/hairlines though none in focal areas, above average strike and eye appeal
MS/PR-66 Few minor marks/hairlines not in focal areas, good strike
MS/PR-66+ Very few minor marks/hairlines not in focal areas, very good strike with superior eye appeal
MS/PR-67 Virtually as struck with minor imperfections, very well struck
MS/PR-67+ Virtually as struck with very minor imperfections, very well struck with attractive eye appeal
MS/PR-68 Virtually as struck with slight imperfections, slightest weakness of strike allowed
MS/PR-68+ Virtually as struck with very slight imperfections, the strike must be virtually full. Eye appeal must be very good.
MS/PR-69 Virtually as struck with minuscule imperfections, near full strike necessary
MS/PR-70 As struck, with full strike
Ambele tabele sunt bune dar acesta in special
Grade Description
PO-1 Identifiable date and type
FR-2 Mostly worn, though some detail is visible
AG-3 Worn rims but most lettering is readable though worn
G-4 Slightly worn rims, flat detail, peripheral lettering nearly full
G-6 Rims complete with flat detail, peripheral lettering full
VG-8 Design worn with slight detail
VG-10 Design worn with slight detail, slightly clearer
F-12 Some deeply recessed areas with detail, all lettering sharp
F-15 Slightly more detail in the recessed areas, all lettering sharp
VF-20 Some definition of detail, all lettering full and sharp
VF-25 Slightly more definition in the detail and lettering
VF-30 Almost complete detail with flat areas
VF-35 Detail is complete but worn with high points flat
EF-40 Detail is complete with most high points slightly flat
EF-45 Detail is complete with some high points flat
EF-45+ Detail is complete with a few high points flat. Superior eye appeal.
AU-50 Full detail with friction over most of the surface, slight flatness on high points
AU-50+ Full detail with friction over most of the surface, very slight flatness on high points. Good eye appeal.
AU-53 Full detail with friction over 1/2 or more of surface, very slight flatness on high points
AU-53+ Full detail with friction on only 1/2 of surface, extremely slight flatness on high points. Positive eye appeal.
AU-55 Full detail with friction on less than 1/2 surface, mainly on high points
AU-55+ Full detail with slight friction on less than 1/2 of surface, on high points. Eye appeal is good.
AU-58 Full detail with only slight friction on the high points
AU-58+ Full detail with the barest trace of friction on the highest points. Superior eye appeal.
MS/PR-60 No wear. May have many heavy marks/hairlines, strike may not be full
MS/PR-61 No wear. Multiple heavy marks/hairlines, strike may not be full
MS/PR-62 No wear. Slightly less marks/hairlines, strike may not be full
MS/PR-62+ No wear. Still slightly above number of marks/hairlines, strike may not be full. Attractive eye appeal for grade.
MS/PR-63 Moderate number/size marks/hairlines, strike may not be full
MS/PR-63+ Average number of marks/hairlines, strike will be close to average. Good eye appeal for grade.
MS/PR-64 Few marks/hairlines or a couple of severe ones, strike should be average or above
MS/PR-64+ Very few marks/hairlines or a couple of heavier ones, strike should be average or above. Superior eye appeal.
MS/PR-65 Minor marks/hairlines though none in focal areas, above average strike
MS/PR-65+ Very minor marks/hairlines though none in focal areas, above average strike and eye appeal
MS/PR-66 Few minor marks/hairlines not in focal areas, good strike
MS/PR-66+ Very few minor marks/hairlines not in focal areas, very good strike with superior eye appeal
MS/PR-67 Virtually as struck with minor imperfections, very well struck
MS/PR-67+ Virtually as struck with very minor imperfections, very well struck with attractive eye appeal
MS/PR-68 Virtually as struck with slight imperfections, slightest weakness of strike allowed
MS/PR-68+ Virtually as struck with very slight imperfections, the strike must be virtually full. Eye appeal must be very good.
MS/PR-69 Virtually as struck with minuscule imperfections, near full strike necessary
MS/PR-70 As struck, with full strike
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Grad de conservare
Cu ajutorul acestui tabel, cam ce grad de conservare ar avea acest 5 lei 1880 ?
Urmatoarele informatii vin din partea "Vinzatorului " :
- piesa a fost bagata intr-o solutie speciala de curatat monede.
- moneda in acest grad de conservare este greu de gasit !
Urmatoarele informatii vin din partea "Vinzatorului " :
- piesa a fost bagata intr-o solutie speciala de curatat monede.
- moneda in acest grad de conservare este greu de gasit !
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AU 50
IMHO, desigur...
IMHO, desigur...
''Orice ar fi sã ne aducã viitorul ºi oricât de mult ar trebui sã suferim, nu încetaþi a cultiva ceea ce a fost ºi trebuie sã rãmânã specificul sufletului românesc: credinþa, vrednicia, setea de libertate ºi dreptate precum ºi omenia cea mai deplinã faþã de semeni''
Majestatea Sa Mihai I Regele Românilor
Majestatea Sa Mihai I Regele Românilor
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Cristian Ciuplea
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5 lei 1880
Buna seara d-le Ovidiu !
Moneda nu este gradata de o firma care nu face decit acest lucru, ca de exp.
NGC, PCGS, ANA .......
Gradul de conservare este facut de o casa de licitatie.
Este si parerea dvs. ca moneda este AU 53 ?
Buna seara si d-lui Bogdan R !
Nu trebuie o declaratie exacta, ajunge si un AU.
Poate mai sosesc niste gradari, desi ora este putin inaintata.
Moneda nu este gradata de o firma care nu face decit acest lucru, ca de exp.
NGC, PCGS, ANA .......
Gradul de conservare este facut de o casa de licitatie.
Este si parerea dvs. ca moneda este AU 53 ?
Buna seara si d-lui Bogdan R !
Nu trebuie o declaratie exacta, ajunge si un AU.
Poate mai sosesc niste gradari, desi ora este putin inaintata.
Ultima oară modificat 24 Iul 2010, 23:29 de către Cristian Ciuplea, modificat 1 dată în total.
Re: 5 lei 1880
Buna seara !Cristian Ciuplea scrie:Buna seara d-le Ovidiu !
Moneda nu este gradata de o firma care nu face decit acest lucru, ca de exp.
NGC, PCGS, ANA .......
Gradul de conservare este facut de o casa de licitatie.
Este si parerea dvs. ca moneda este AU 53 ?
Pai cred ca nu ati inteles postul meu .Parerea mea e ca ar fi AU 53 . Am spus doar ca probabil PCGS nu ar grada-o pentru ca a fost curatata , nu ca moneda ar fi gradata de o asemenea casa.
Si de gradul de conservare dat de casa de licitatii ... nu am idee . Frumusica totusi moneda .-
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5 lei 1880
Si dvs. d-le Claus o seara placuta !
Ati remarcat corect ca anumite parti din relief nu mai sint cum au fost .
Ideea " jocului " nu este de a anticipa ce zice firma.
Noi trebuie sa ne uitam la relief, la cimpul monedei cu luciul ei din bataie, sa incercam sa descoperim si niste eventuale zgirieturi clare sau greseli pe muchie, ca apoi sa ne dam verdictul.
Ati remarcat corect ca anumite parti din relief nu mai sint cum au fost .
Ideea " jocului " nu este de a anticipa ce zice firma.
Noi trebuie sa ne uitam la relief, la cimpul monedei cu luciul ei din bataie, sa incercam sa descoperim si niste eventuale zgirieturi clare sau greseli pe muchie, ca apoi sa ne dam verdictul.
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Cristian Ciuplea
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Re: 5 lei 1880
Deci dl. Ovidiu este de parere ca moneda este aproape necirculata.ovidiu^ scrie:Buna seara !Cristian Ciuplea scrie:Buna seara d-le Ovidiu !
Moneda nu este gradata de o firma care nu face decit acest lucru, ca de exp.
NGC, PCGS, ANA .......
Gradul de conservare este facut de o casa de licitatie.
Este si parerea dvs. ca moneda este AU 53 ?
Pai cred ca nu ati inteles postul meu .Parerea mea e ca ar fi AU 53 . Am spus doar ca probabil PCGS nu ar grada-o pentru ca a fost curatata , nu ca moneda ar fi gradata de o asemenea casa.
Poate ca mai vin niste gradari !
Tind sa fiu de acord cu dl Claus. Coama leilor este si ea foarte tocita. Piesa este oricum frumoasa. Alaturat o piesa poate putin mai frumoasa:
Ultima oară modificat 01 Mai 2011, 01:26 de către andrukb, modificat 1 dată în total.
Sa imi iertati executia artistica. Am conturat in felul urmator:
Rosu - uzura
Albastru - zgarieturi
Galben - Luciu (unde am crezut ca este, cel putin din imagine)
La acest grad de uzura, parerea mea este ca moneda este XF si legat de faptul ca a fost curatata cu o solutie, cred ca trecut ceva mai dur peste ea.
Rosu - uzura
Albastru - zgarieturi
Galben - Luciu (unde am crezut ca este, cel putin din imagine)
La acest grad de uzura, parerea mea este ca moneda este XF si legat de faptul ca a fost curatata cu o solutie, cred ca trecut ceva mai dur peste ea.
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